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Being Gay: Nature vs. Nuture - 60 Minutes Reports

2008-05-16T16:01:38Z

With gay marriage in the news in California, I thought I'd post a link to a website with some clips from "60 Minutes" about extreme childhood gender non-conformity and being gay.

I'm not so sure about the relationship between how you self-identify your gender and your sexual orientation, but some of the experts 60 Minutes consulted thinks there is a correlation. Regardless of whether there is or not, here is some fascinating information on gender dysphoria and on homosexuality.

http://60minutes. yahoo. com/segment/68/gay_or_straight

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The "secrets" of gay men

2008-05-10T19:07:16Z

I was just mentally tripping out over what "IS NORMAL" to us gay men....and what would FREAK straight people out .

When I mean normal, I'm guessing the majority of gay men in this Tribe Know other gay who like arm pit hair and even themselves like to sniff and lick a pit once in awhile. Or Know of or ARE someone who would pay 45 bucks for a porn stars jock strap (Like me...hahah)... Or the fact that we go online and look at piss vids... It's somewhat more Normal amongst us... but even straight men don't discuss amongst themselves piss play.

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Looking for film locations for local porn company...any help would be greatly appreciated

2008-05-06T19:16:00Z

So I'm looking for places in San Francisco that would be open to letting the company I work with shoot some porn there. It doesn't have to be pretty, in fact grungy is probably preferred. Anyone have ideas or know of places that would be open to that?

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If Gay men could procreate??

2008-05-05T02:36:49Z

This comes from a convo i had on instant messenger with a tribe member where he brought up the HUGE spike in population would be IF gay men were able to get pregnant. This he said after i told him i had a Degrassi High:The next generation secret shame and That "at least i didn't have a teen pregnancy in high school. (But i had almost everything else..except for boyfriend)

If Gay men were able to become pregnant abortion clinics would be overfled with pregnant twinks and bottomy daddy men too ashamed to admit they'd been knocked up. Gay men would have a high rate of fraternal twins and tripplets and such, with two or three or maybe six daddies...depending on the party. We'd have men having three kids.. one black...one asian and another who'srace is a sheer mystery. The night care industry would BOOM and children would be placed in the care of fat straight women with nothing better to on a saturday night so Daddy/mommy could go to the white party. Fat women would never get laid! And the economy would spike! And knowing men, the resulting children on the playground would regale eachother with tales of where they born..

"My daddy went into labor while go-go dancing at a white party in palm springs ...his water broke in Lance Basses mouth while he trying to rim him! Do you know what white party is? i do! ha!"

And our gyms would run red with blood! Gym bunnies miscarrying on the treadmill and butterfly machines while making bigger pecs.... Anal sex would become messier. Summers Eve and Playtex stock would rocket...and playtex would have to come up with manlier adds to reach their gay demographic... Playtex would become Mantex! Cute boys getting their periods, answering phone calls saying.."Oh i can't tonight...It's that time of the month ...my ass is sore"...and he not be a porn star during a film blitz.)

Most famously David and Victoria Beckham named their first born Brooklyn, after where the kid was conceived....basically the last place they fucked before she missed her period.

Lets say you were knocked up today.... What would your baby's name be?

Think of the last place you had PUBLIC sex...or in a public venue (i say this because it would be more interesting. If you can't think of any or have any.. think of the last place you had sex..if it was at home ... then use your street name). If You had sex at an Exxon gas station... your baby is Exxon.... If it was at Delores Park at 4.m. Your baby girl is named Delores... your baby boy is Parker. Get the idea. Lets roll!

My baby is Charlie.

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Gay Jokes

2008-04-25T15:59:53Z

Anyone know anyone good gay jokes?

I'll start,

Q: What do you a call a gay Eskimo?
A: A snow blower...

Q: What do you call a gay dinosaur?
A: A "mega-sore-ass"...

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Married men, fuck them or not?

2008-04-15T05:07:21Z

Must be my catholic background, but I just don't feel right having sex with married men. I met a guy on the internet (do I love or hate the web...gets me in trouble all the time). He's a father of two and is so obssessed with me. He wants me to aknowledge him as the "lover" and wants me to accept this situation...I had to say no. I tried to break up and asked to be friends only. Does friendship include the sex? he asks. Now it's back to the same thing....that obssession with sex. What about the wife? I feel sorry for her. I asked him why not divorce her and then he'd be free to see me whenever (and I'd be rid of this guilt). I don't like being the home breaker slut. Is it ok to fuck a married man?

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"Queer" : A New Enlightenment ...?

2008-04-09T23:47:06Z

The topics of "normal" and “queer” vs. “gay” resurface, not just here, but also implicitly in the many questions asked whether Senator Craig is gay (or to a lesser extent around Governor Spitzer's resignation). It has led me to ponder our current political state versus similar historic eras and wonder ...

Can it be said we have entered a period of Enlightenment and much of the bitter politics and exposure of moralists (like Senator Craig) as hypocrites is simply part of the natural progression from old to new traditions? Words like “gay” and “queer” may simply be terms of a cultural revolution, a part of the Enlightenment.

- “Homosexual.” A clinical term and nothing more. It defines sexual attraction and nothing else. “Homo” for same”; “sexual” for “sex.” We are all homo and heterosexual to one degree or another because we all find attractiveness to some extent in people of the same and opposite sex.

- “Gay.” A man in acknowledgement of that small facet of his greater essence which involves homosexual attraction. Generally unashamed of the facet as well, the gay man is one who has rejected and become liberated from the confines of institutional and societal norms which dictate that to be “normal” (i.e., “blessed”) one is naturally, and must remain exclusively, heterosexual.

- “Queer.” The benefit that a life lived outside of societal norms bestows. To be queer is to appreciate a greater sentience, to be enlightened, able to appreciate the beautiful and ugly that make up the simple and complex nature of life, more capable of embracing the divine gifts of sight, sound, touch, taste, smell, and senses yet imagined.

- “Fag”/“Faggot.” The pejorative. An aural weapon, like “witch,” used by those in power to instill institutional fear in others in order to hold what’s left of a weakening position in face of an enlightened society. (A “faggot” being the pyre used to burn heretics and witches during prior Enlightenments, its root is found in ironic violence.)

The distinction between “gay” and “queer” is subtle and probably best-grasped by young people to whom concepts like “labels” to define sexuality and “the closet” are quaint traditions (like flat worlds and witch hunts and blood letting). It’s why “GLBT” groups more and more become “GLBTQ.” It’s why college students and 20-somethings are quick to embrace “Queer.” Born and raised in the early understanding of this Enlightenment, they know their sexuality, your sexuality, my sexuality, those “G,” “L,” “B,” “T” labels, matter little and hardly threaten whether they or I or others are blessed in the greater realm of existence. Attraction-be-damned, if joy and camaraderie is found in the style and lights and music and dance involving men or women or both in a “straight” or “gay” bar, so be it. Sexuality like art and music and all things sensual, Enlightenment reveals, is naturally fluid.

Larry Craig isn’t “gay.” He, and his ilk, are victimizers, predators. They are the Puritan fathers clinging to old notions, leading Salem to witch hunts, shackled by ruefulness, ensconced in reactionary fear of that which is different. Like hypocritical Puritan ancestors, in seeing Enlightenment's possibility, they force themselves to be blind, become both enthralled by and terrified of the possibility that Enlightenment is real and the human soul can run deeper than imagined. Unable to conceive “blessed” as anything but what they have always understood, yet captivated, they are driven to unsatisfying and furtive pleasures seeped in denial. Their lives become hypocritical, dark, self-loathing existences, the antithesis of Enlightened “Queer,” into which they can only try to keep others in order to maintain the illusion of that which had been “normal” and not be left behind.

“Burn the witch” 300 years ago had less to do with witchcraft than it did with the fear of a new consciousness that geographic independence the New World an ocean away from Old World traditions revealed. “Hate the sin, not the sinner” has less to do today with sex than it does with the realities brought to light in the Enlightenment of the Q Revolution.

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queer or gay?

2008-04-06T09:58:57Z

on another thread John said:

Everytime I hear that word I want to taste blood. Funny, I could hear "faggot," even "homo," all day long and be a happy camper, but say "homosexual" and I wish I had a squirt gun filled with battery acid. For that matter, I find "gay" kind of irritating, too. But whatever.

i looked through the old threads and didnt find any thread topics about what the words "gay" and "queer" mean to you guys.

did i miss something?

i like being queer better than gay because it explains how i am also asexual, a lateral thinker and an oddball.

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"To Be Chosen" by Michael Travis Jasper

2008-04-04T01:44:23Z

Has anyone checked out this novel? What do you think?

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A New Gay Dating Site……with a twist

2008-03-31T06:44:59Z

YES....you will see this post in my various tribes, so if you've seen it in another tribe you're a member of.........Don't Bitch. OKAY! And I say this in jest:-)

This gay dating site is unique in regards, to its approach, for its membership. Here’s the premise of the site, written and originated by the creator of the site:

“Welcome to Dissident Dating”

“Maybe you don't test for HIV or maybe you did and just don't trust the results. Maybe you've learned that AIDS is not caused by HIV, and that tests are inaccurate. Then you can meet like-minded people here, make friends, date, and...well, its up to you! On this site no one posts "status" because negative and positive are proven to be meaningless or at best misleading. Why not live and love!”

My Observation:

With all the fear and pandemonium about dating (these days) a person labeled ‘so-called’ hiv-antibody positive, this site doesn’t ask that you reveal your ‘status’ because the members are dissidents, and have accepted, not to accept, the fear based paradigm of hiv ‘antibodies’ being the cause of aids.

Definition of ‘Antibody’: any of numerous Y-shaped protein molecules produced by B cells as a primary immune defense, each molecule and its clones having a unique binding site that can combine with the complementary site of a foreign antigen, as on a virus or bacterium, thereby disabling the antigen and signaling other immune defenses.

So if you’ve been labeled hiv-antibody positive, or negative, or just don’t know, no one on the dating site will judge you about that. Just be prepared for a vast amount of mind-blowing (and boggling) knowledge from some of the members, you may come to know, on the site.

What I find interesting about the site, is it’s ability, to reach out to people, who, are taking a different stance and approach on dating, loving, meeting someone new, and being with someone who shares their views about the ‘Otherside’ of the hiv paradigm and model. And hey…you just might learn something new, and a thang-or-two, from a member, or so.

This is not a debate, or bitching, or mud-slinging site; that usually happens after you’re in a relationship. It’s a gay DATING site, with a majority of members who are interested in meeting and getting to know others, who question(s) the model we call hiv. Revealing your status (I would assume) – to another member – it entirely up to you and he, if you care to include it in your dialogue, but not required.

The site is new, so it will be a matter of time, when the membership continues to grow.
It is ‘not’ to assume that every member joining -- this site -- are considered as hiv antibody pos, because a lot of people aren’t, because they know enough and don’t believe hiv=aids, to be afraid of being with someone label as pos:
http://www.dissidentdating.com/index.php

Be open-minded. You may met someone who can change you life for the better. One just never knows, where cupid may strike.
Terry

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Your Gayest Look

2008-03-31T00:55:49Z

Leno is - and always has been - such a douche.

http://www.mygayestlook.com/

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hello all.

2008-03-28T04:09:43Z

i'm patrick, a queer hermit hippy living in the peace river valley in northern canada. i'm not like anyone know, and am basically celibate. it's just easier. my isolation kind of dictates that anyways. 'd like to meet some folks and make some friends and would love to find something of a sense of community here that i so lack in the non-internet-world.
peace, patrick

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Gays’ Depiction in Advertising

2008-03-22T23:20:52Z

http://www.advertisingpawn.com/?p=34

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Ostara Egg - enjoy

2008-03-19T21:07:25Z

Wishing you all a abundant fierce spring season...
hope you enjoy the Ostara egg i saved for ya'..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k54cn1gbIyI

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interesting talk...

2008-03-18T15:59:35Z

and hopefully inspiring...

http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/229

hoping the days have been kind to you in these "interesting times"

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ICP 2.9 now available at Creampuff Revolution

2008-03-09T17:35:15Z

Dear Friends of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP):

It is a tremendous pleasure to announce the publication of edition 2.9 of the ICP at the following link:

http://rosemaryrowe.typepad.com/creampuff_revolution/2008/03/creampuff-welco.html

Creampuff, a.k.a., Roro, who hails from Vancouver, is our first repeat host from Canada. I encourage you to bookmark this edition and visit it over time so that you can enjoy each of the contributions from the world of HIV/AIDS. I hope that you will also join me in thanking Roro for her work this month. We “met” about 2 years ago during the NHL Hockey Championship between Edmonton and the Carolina Hurricanes and have been fast friends since despite some rather competitive invocation of mojo to make our teams win the Stanley Cup. Roro’s sense of compassion combined with her sense of humor makes me quite happy to count her among my friends.

This 21st consecutive edition of the ICP features personal accounts, video, a special musical contribution from UK band Slovo, self-help information and the latest in news from the HIV/AIDS community. I hope that you will spend some time reading and that you will leave comments for the contributors. It is through your comments that we can hone our messages and learn how you feel about our work. Please feel free to leave your thoughts with each of the contributors and for our gracious host.

Next Edition

Please visit the ICP homepage to learn more about this project and how you can contribute here:

http://www.internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com .

We are now accepting submissions for edition 2.10 to be hosted here, at Mshairi:

http://www.mshairi.com/blog

This will be Mshairi’s first stint as host of the ICP although she has been a frequent contributor in the past. Mshairi’s edition will mark the first time that the ICP will have been hosted by an African host. If you like poetry, you should scroll through her blog. A selection of her poetry also appears at one of my favorite sites, The Other Voices Poetry International Project, an anthology of poetry from around the world that has been recognized by UNESCO, here:

http://www.othervoicespoetry.org

Mshairi's work appears under the title “Footprints” here:

http://othervoicespoetry.org/vol27/mshairi/index.html .

Contribute Your Work

Please join the growing community of contributors and hosts for this important international forum for genuine voices of AIDS. If you are interested in hosting the ICP, please email me at ron.hudson@verizon.net with the subject listed as “Volunteering to Host the ICP” and I will make the process for you as fun and rewarding as possible. We urgently need new volunteer hosts for the ICP editions after April, 2008. I will work with you to make the process as painless as it can be whether you are a first-time or returning host.

Please Share with Your Friends

Please share this notice with your friends and consider posting announcements of our link on your blogs and websites. Our continuing presence is bolstered by your participation and outreach. Please help spread the word.

To be Removed From or Added To the ICP mailing list:

Please email me at ron.hudson@verizon.net to be added to or removed from the ICP mailing list. Please include the word subscribe or unsubscribe in your subject line to indicate your intent. I will use your source email address as indicated in your note. If you did not receive notice of the ICP from me via direct email, then I do not have your email address in the mailing list. Please note that I can not remove an email address that does not exist on the mailing list. Your privacy is absolutely critical and no email addresses will be shared, sold or given to any other source. I use blind-copy distribution technology to prevent your identity from being revealed.

Peace to you and yours.

Safe Journeys!

Ron Hudson

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The International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP)
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ICP 2.8 now available

2008-02-09T18:21:46Z

Dear Friends of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP):

It is a tremendous pleasure to announce the publication of edition 2.8 of the ICP at

http://notperfectatall.blogspot.com/2008/02/icp-28.html

Dragonette is our first European host, working from The Netherlands I encourage you to bookmark this edition and visit it over time so that you can enjoy each of the contributions from the world of HIV/AIDS. I hope that you will also join me in thanking Dragonette for her work this month.

This 20th consecutive edition of the ICP features personal accounts, video, music, self-help information and the latest in news from the HIV/AIDS community. Among these posts, you will find news about HIV/AIDS from around the world, posts from long-term survivors, an Annie Lennox HIV-prevention video, news and personal accounts from Africa, Australia, Asia, Europe, and North and South America. I hope that you will spend some time reading and that you will leave comments for the contributors.

Next Edition

Please visit the ICP homepage to learn more about this project and how you can contribute at the following link:

http://internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com

We are now accepting submissions for edition 2.9 to be hosted at Creampuff Revolution, located here:

http://rosemaryrowe.typepad.com/creampuff_revolution/

This will be Roro’s second stint as host of the ICP. Her writing style is beautiful, funny, clever and guaranteed to make your ICP experience a good one. Please consider contributing your original artwork, poetry, news, personal accounts, short stories, videos or music files for the next edition.

Contribute Your Work

Please join the growing community of contributors and hosts for this important international forum for genuine voices of AIDS. If you are interested in hosting the ICP, please send an email to ron.hudson@verizon.net and I will make the process for you as painless as possible. We urgently need new volunteer hosts for the ICP editions after March, 2008. If any of you have previously hosted or if you are first-time host, I will work with you to make the process as fun as it can be. It would be especially cool to have a volunteer host for the April edition.

Please Share with Your Friends

Please share this notice with your friends and consider posting announcements of our link on your blogs and websites. Our continuing presence is bolstered by your participation and outreach. Please help spread the word.

To be Removed From or Added To the ICP mailing list:

Please send an email to ron.hudson@verizon.net with the word REMOVE or SUBSCRIBE in your subject line to have your name removed from or added to, respectively, the ICP mailing list. If you did not receive notice of the ICP from me via direct email, then I do not have your email address in the mailing list. Please note that I can not remove an email address that does not exist on the mailing list. Your privacy is absolutely critical and no email addresses will be shared, sold or given to any other source. I use blind-copy distribution technology to prevent your identity from being revealed.

Peace to you and yours.

Ron Hudson

http://www.ronhudson.blogspot.com 2sides2ron
http://www.poundcakelove.blogspot.com Poundcake Love
http://www.internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com
The International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP)

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New M4M Personals tribe

2008-02-06T17:17:37Z

Hi Guys,

I can't find any personals sites on Tribe for men seeking men. So I'm starting one.

http://tribes.tribe.net/m4mpersonals

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HIV today~Do you care about the status of your sexual partners? Part 2 (The Denialist strike back!)

2008-01-26T16:00:45Z

Fire away!

and you were saying?

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HIV today~Do you care about the status of your sexual partners?

2008-01-26T07:16:41Z

I'm quite interested to see the responses to this:

Do you care if your partners are poz or not?

If you are Poz....how do you feel about dating negative or other guys who are Poz?

Do you have a prefrence?

It seems like every other guy i meet in the city is POZ. I've said many times before that being in SF for me nowadays is like being in an alternate reality where all that is quuer is amplified. HIV/AIDS being a central concern for many gay and bi men and women, i wonder what the opinions of this tribe are towards issues of disclosure, dating and the impact AIDS/HIV has on your personal life right NOW.

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Global Marijuana March

2008-01-14T01:19:06Z

Hey All,

I was wondering if anyone knew where to get the information for this years GMM ?

The link for San Francisco at the main site looks like it has some problems:

http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org/

Does anyone know where to get any more information on the subject. For now all I know is that it's on May 3rd 2008. I guess it's a little premature but any information would be helpful.

Thank,
B.E.

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Edition 2.7 of the International Carnival of Pozitivities Available

2008-01-12T15:45:42Z

Dear Friends of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP):

It is a tremendous pleasure to announce the publication of edition 2.7 of the ICP at

http://www.thespincycle.blogspot.com/2008/01/as-positive-as-you-wanna-be-icp-27.html

Matty the Damned at The Spin Cycle

(http://www.thespincycle.blogspot.com)

has graciously served as our host for this month...from Australia. Bless his heart, Matty has a way with words. I have to include a STRONG LANGUAGE WARNING for you to consider, but what is a little language when you are dealing with a terminal illness? I hope that you will read this article and overlook any part that might offend you to see through to the good in the messages that we share to raise awareness about HIV/AIDS.

This 19th consecutive edition of the ICP features personal accounts, video, self-help information and the latest in news from the HIV/AIDS community. I hope that you will spend some time reading and that you will leave comments for the contributors.

Next Edition

Please visit the ICP homepage to learn more about this project and how you can contribute at the following link:

http://internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com

We are now accepting submissions for edition 2.8 to be hosted at NotPerfectAtAll, located here:

http://notperfectatall.blogspot.com/

Please consider contributing your original artwork, poetry, news, personal accounts, short stories, videos or music files for the next edition.

Please Share with Your Friends

Please share this notice with your friends and consider posting announcements of our link on your blogs and websites. Our continuing presence is bolstered by your participation and outreach. Please help spread the word.

Contribute Your Work

Please join the growing community of contributors and hosts for this important international forum for genuine voices of AIDS. If you are interested in hosting the ICP, please send an email to ron.hudson@verizon.net and I will make the process as painless as possible. We have hosts inline through March, 2008, but if you would like to host in April, 2008, or beyond, please let me know. I hope that you will consider signing up to host a specific edition of the ICP.

To be Removed From or Added To the ICP mailing list:

Please send an email to ron.hudson@verizon.net with the word REMOVE or SUBSCRIBE in your subject line to have your name removed from or added to, respectively, the ICP mailing list. If you did not receive notice of the ICP from me via direct email, then I do not have your email address in the mailing list. Please note that I can not remove an email address that does not exist on the mailing list. Your privacy is absolutely critical and no email addresses will be shared, sold or given to any other source. I use blind-copy distribution technology to prevent your identity from being revealed.

Peace to you and yours.

Ron Hudson

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WOW -- Serrano $2.5 Million Award Over False HIV Pos Raises Basic Questions

2008-01-09T05:30:11Z

And the test are suppose to be accurate, huh? There will be others stepping up.

Verdict of $2.5 Million Over False-Positive HIV Diagnosis Brings up Basic Problems With AIDS Testing and Treatment, Say Scientists

CHICAGO, Dec. 12, 2007--A lawsuit decided today against the University of Massachusetts Medical Center over consequences of an allegedly false-positive HIV antibody test exposes basic problems with the test and treatments for all persons taking them, according to a high-ranking medical researcher who has advised the plaintiff's lawyer on the case. The verdict, issued today, awarded $2.5 million to the plaintiff.

The complaint by Audrey Serrano, 45, in court hearings this week in Worcester, Mass., focuses on the absence of a “confirmatory” Western Blot test in her records. However, Andrew Maniotis, Ph.D., research assistant professor in the Department of Pathology, University of Illinois-Chicago School of Medicine, contends that, though the reliability of all HIV testing is not on trial in court here, the case history opens questions about it. And, because Serrano developed illnesses commonly defined as “AIDS-related conditions” only after taking HIV medications known as “highly active antiretroviral therapy” (HAART), the drugs themselves appear to have caused “AIDS.”

Rethinking AIDS (RA) has been asking such questions since its founding in 1991. Etienne de Harven, M.D., president of RA, says, “It is urgent that we open a public debate on the highly suspect reliability of all HIV testing. Moreover, I fully share Dr. Maniotis' concern about the safety of HIV drugs.” Further resources are online at the group’s Web site, www.rethinkingaids.com.

Rodney Richards, Ph.D., worked on the development of antibody (ELISA) and genetic “viral load” tests for Amgen and holds some related patents. “The diagnosis of being HIV positive is based on arbitrary combinations of tests, none of which are approved for diagnosing HIV,” he says. “In fact there is no test for HIV. It’s just an illusion.”

Raising issues of informed consent for all persons submitting to HIV antibody testing, the test kits themselves contain disclaimers that doctors rarely, if ever, share with patients. For example, Abbott Laboratories’ ELISA test kit, typically used as a preliminary test, warns:

“ELISA testing alone cannot be used to diagnose AIDS.”

Confirmation of an ELISA result with a Western Blot test is currently required as a “standard of care.” Epitope’s Western Blot package insert reads:

“Do not use this kit as the sole basis for HIV infection.”

“This is somewhat more concerning, since the Western Blot is supposed to be a highly accurate test, used to confirm that an ELISA is not a false positive,” says Dr. Maniotis. “Moreover, the peer-reviewed literature gives substantial evidence that the virus ‘HIV’ has never been isolated in purified form free of contaminating cellular debris in order to generate the so-called ‘specific viral antigens’ used in the test kits.”

Serrano, now acknowledged to have always tested HIV negative and therefore not to have been at risk for developing AIDS, nevertheless suffered from several AIDS-defining illnesses, including wasting, herpes, and oral thrush, while taking HAART. She also suffered from other health problems, including constant diarrhea (AIDS-defining under the African definition), muscle wasting, profound fatigue, non-specific skin lesions, oral thrush, herpes outbreaks, severe nosebleeds, constant gynecological bleeding and pain from ovarian cysts, fibrocystic breast lesions, hyperplastic pituitary lesions, and severe heart and respiratory difficulties.

Labels for HAART drugs actually list these conditions as possible side effects, suggesting that the drugs themselves cause AIDS-related conditions, Maniotis says.

Serrano’s experience is, sadly, not unique. Dr. Maniotis chose to investigate her case because, he says, “it is typical of many cases reviewed and, as it illustrates so clearly the development of AIDS-related conditions in a woman testing HIV negative who was healthy before she took HAART, strongly suggests that profound paradigm shifts are urgently needed to avoid more human rights violations.”

Drs. Maniotis and Richards are available for immediate media interviews and talk show appearances:

Andrew Maniotis, Ph.D.
Chicago, Ill., U.S. (Central time zone)
312-996-4838 office
773-960-9084 mobile
amanioti@uic.edu

Rodney Richards, Ph.D.
Illinois/Colorado, U.S. (Central and Mountain time zones)
303-909-4175 mobile
drmrsearch@yahoo.com

Dr. de Harven, president of RA, can be reached at:
Etienne de Harven, M.D.
Saint Cézaire, France [GMT +1 hour]
+33-4 93 60 28 39 phone
pitou.deharven@tele2.fr

Media Contacts:
David Crowe
Calgary, Alberta, Canada (Mountain time zone)
+1-403-289-6609 (office)
+1-403-861-2225 (mobile)
david.crowe@aras.ab.ca

Elizabeth Ely
Brooklyn, N.Y., U.S. (Eastern time zone)
+1-718-704-9672 (mobile)
elyelizabeth@verizon.net
E-mail: press@rethinkingaids.com
Web site: www.rethinkingaids.com

Rethinking AIDS: The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis (“RA” or “the Group”) was formed in 1991 to express the concerns of a growing number of renowned scientists and medical doctors about HIV research and the resulting human rights abuses. In 1995, by a letter published in Science, the Group called for a thorough reappraisal of the existing evidence for and against the HIV/AIDS hypothesis and recommended that critical epidemiological studies be undertaken.

Among RA’s founders and key members are Harvard microbiologist Dr. Charles Thomas; 1993 Nobel laureate for chemistry Dr. Kary Mullis; Nature Biotechnology co-founder Dr. Harvey Bialy; University of California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg and the late Yale mathematician Dr. Serge Lang, both members of the National Academy of Sciences; professor of medical physics at the Royal Perth Hospital in Western Australia Dr. Eleni Papadopulos; and Glasgow University professor emeritus of public health and World Health Organization consultant Dr. Gordon Stewart.

The Group’s current president, Dr. Etienne de Harven, is a professor emeritus of pathology at the University of Toronto and a former cancer researcher at Sloan-Kettering Institute, New York (1956-1981). He produced the first electron microscopic studies of a retrovirus (the murine Friend leukemia virus) and was director of the Electron Microscopy Laboratory at the Banting Institute, Department of Pathology, University of Toronto.
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Ref: http://worcester.indymedia.org/node/17931

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Gay Body Modifications

2008-01-06T00:45:52Z

Are you into body modifcations?...do you like tattoos, piercings, inplants, vacpump, saline, silicone and/or other harder mods?
I invite you to join the GAY BODY MODIFICATIONS group
http://gaybodymods.ning.com

WARNING: At least one personal photo and some information about you are required to get your membership.

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2008 Presidential Election

2008-01-03T08:02:35Z

Feeling confused over the candidates? Are the donkeys and the elephants running circles around your head? Well maybe you should take a look at this candidate! Happy New Year! Let's hope it's a good one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOdoabbLBcE&feature=related

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What do you do if you get a BONER in public?

2008-01-03T07:55:42Z

I don’t know how I came across this or it to me, but (lol) when I saw it, I went ‘OH-MY-GOD!’ I don’t know if I was embarrassed for the guy or what. This dude does whatever he can to conceal it in his wrestler tights, but, it’s very evident he got a BIG ‘boner’ while wrestling with his opponent, in a public area mind you. Do these guys get excited when they wrestle? Does adrenaline cause their dicks to swell? Here’s the evidence: http://youtube.com/watch?v=OQT_ZcUBAY8

Also this is another with a HUGE bulge, from a runner, and it just can’t stop jiggling in his spandex as it runs ahead of him: http://youtube.com/watch?v=HxnISJYyoYk

Has this (getting a boner in public) ever happen to you? What do you do to conceal it, it you try to?

I will repost this in my other tribes.

Terry

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A New Year's Resolution? Free Yoga Classes

2007-12-27T03:49:37Z

Question: Ready for that "New Year's Resolution?"
Answer: ? (Didn't think so).

Well thanks to the "Grotto" at Sports Basement - you have a "free" chance to improve your well being ... ..

)n 01 December 2007, Sports Basement joined together with local yoga teachers to give a yoga gift to the community.
Next yoga class:

• Sunday, 30 December 2007 - 10:30 - 12:00 noon. -
• Yoga Flow - with Annie Leguennec
• http://www.sfgoju.com/

• Sports Basement --San Francisco
• 1590 Bryant St.
San Francisco, CA
(415) 575-3000
http://sportsbasement.com

And due to the very high turnout of yoga students, speed walkers, coach potatoes, Fat Tire Beer Specialist, snowboarders, and then some . . . Starting January 2008, Sports Basement will host free yoga classes each & every Sunday from 1:00 - 2:30pm.

Yoga Teachers of various styles (Iyengar Yoga, Ashtanga Yoga, Vinyasa, Raja Yoga, Kundalini, Anasara Yoga, Yin Yoga, Power Yoga, Anna Forrest Yoga, etc.) will present their unique connection with the yogic path.

Check back each month and see who’s in the mix – free yoga classes by yoga teachers of all walks of life. Official Website: http://ynottony.com/yoga1.htm

And, if you are a yoga teacher (or a soon to graduate yoga teacher) looking to share your knowledge, practice karma yoga (community service), and put yourself in the public eye, come join in & volunteer your services making yoga affordable for every individual. Pick one Sunday per month . . Teach as many months as you would enjoy doing. . . .

Yoga teachers will receive a $25.00 gift certificate from Sports Basement (per yoga class) & can use the platform as a way of promoting themselves and their unique yoga experience.

Regardless, it's a grand opportunity to start the year on the right path, meet some like minded individuals, see life in a different light, & calm the mind.

* Yoga teachers of all schools of yoga are invited to teach.
* Yoga students of all levels are invited to attend.

For more information or to get your name on the yoga teacher's list - contact: Iyengar Yoga Teacher, tony at:: http://ynottony.com/contact.php

1. Send a brief Yoga Bio
2. Send a list of your available Sundays in January, February & March - 2008.
3. Send a link to your website, personal profile (Myspace, Zaadz, Tribe, Yelp review, etc) or something which speaks highly of you
4. Start advertising your yoga class

Wishing the best of all possible worlds,
tony
http://ynottony.com

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gay rain blow in mexcio this winter 2008

2007-12-22T00:56:51Z

is there a queer camp???? any one wanta go to a muxe party in feb and show by lila downs in oaxaca seedy?

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Announcing Edition 2.6 of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP)

2007-12-03T21:29:11Z

Dear Friends of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP):

It is a tremendous pleasure to announce the publication of edition 2.6 of the ICP at

http://www.dropdeadhappy.com/dropdeadhappy/ICP26.html

Mark Kokocki is our third host from Canada and our second from the Vancouver area after Roro at Creampuff Revolution. I encourage you to bookmark this edition and visit it over time so that you can enjoy each of the contributions from the world of HIV/AIDS. I hope that you will also join me in thanking Mark for his work this month and Giles of Slimconomy and Roro of Creampuff Revolution for the previous Canadian editions.

This 18th consecutive edition of the ICP features personal accounts, video, music, self-help information and the latest in news from the HIV/AIDS community. Among these posts,you will find news about HIV/AIDS in women and children, a good sampling of posts from long-term survivors, a Bollywood-like HIV prevention video from India, news and personal accounts from Africa, Asia, Europe, and North and South America, I hope that you will spend some time reading and that you will leave comments for the contributors.

Next Edition

Please visit the ICP homepage to learn more about this project and how you can contribute at the following link:

http://internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com

We are now accepting submissions for edition 2.7 to be hosted at The Spin Cycle, located here:

http://thespincycle.blogspot.com

This new edition marks the first time that the ICP will have been hosted outside of North America as we go to Australia for host Matty the Damned and the Spin Cycle team. It is notable that Matty and the Spin Cycle contributed the first post to the ICP’s first edition in June of 2006. Please consider contributing your original artwork, poetry, news, personal accounts, short stories, videos or music files for the next edition.

Please Share with Your Friends

Please share this notice with your friends and consider posting announcements of our link on your blogs and websites. Our continuing presence is bolstered by your participation and outreach. Please help spread the word.

Contribute Your Work

Please join the growing community of contributors and hosts for this important international forum for genuine voices of AIDS. If you are interested in hosting the ICP, please send an email to ron.hudson@verizon.net and I will make the process for you as painless as possible. We have hosts inline through February, 2008, but if you would like to host in March, 2008, or beyond, please let me know. I hope that you will consider signing up to host a specific edition of the ICP.

To be Removed From or Added To the ICP mailing list:

Please send an email to ron.hudson@verizon.net with the word REMOVE or SUBSCRIBE in your subject line to have your name removed from or added to, respectively, the ICP mailing list. If you did not receive notice of the ICP from me via direct email, then I do not have your email address in the mailing list. Please note that I can not remove an email address that does not exist on the mailing list. Your privacy is absolutely critical and no email addresses will be shared, sold or given to any other source. I use blind-copy distribution technology to prevent your identity from being revealed.

Peace to you and yours.

Ron Hudson

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new tribe: bay area queer kinky dating

2007-11-24T23:58:03Z

Check it out:

tribes.tribe.net/bayqueerkinkdate

For queers who like to get dirty and want a relationship.

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Closeted Movie Characters!!

2007-11-19T07:39:38Z

So the dumb hetties in the Movie Whore tribe didn't respond well to my thread asking the tribe to out sexually ambiguous or not so ambiguous Characters ala Jk Rowlings outting Daddy Dumbldore. Basically Rowlings told us all that If Dumbledore lived in San Francisco his favorite bar would be Twin Peaks.

So i thought it would be brilliant to out characters in filmic History....

like

Sebastian- "The Little Mermaid" : "Such a prissy pig bottom. Even as a kid I thought Sebastian was queer. In Hindsight, he's a be an A-Gay with a Job at the Philharmonic, already with a husband ... WHO cheats on him because he's a such a tight ass. Everyonce in a while Sebastain gets away from from his tank and crawls to blow buddies on;ly after getting hammered at Powerhouse. Sebastian has a secret leather fetish. This Crab has the Crabs!

Leon- From "The Professional" 1994- I was watching this film again by accident on cinemax while cleaning my room and organizing my pornography by title and scene and size quite methodically, when bam it hit me! This sweet, uncomfortable assassin who took in a teenage girl he felt, understandably, sorry for was gay. Loner gay. Hadn't gotten any for a long time...like Dumbledore.... but gay. His sweet gentle spirit clashed just enough with his cold hearted killer.. that i thought... hey this dude is gay. Unwritten... but a homo.

Stuart- From "Stuart saves his family"- This is obvious. It was the early 90's but Al franken knew exactly who stuart was. A GAY self help expert who couldn't deal with his homosexuality in his family frame so he dealt with the alcoholism and pure craziness as a way to dissuade his family from focus on his blatant queerness.

come on Play along!

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ICP 17 is now Available. I hope you are finding it helpful and interesting.

2007-11-12T03:01:12Z

Dear Friends of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP):

The 17th consecutive edition of the ICP is now available at the following link:

http://slimconomy.blogspot.com/2007/11/w-elcome-to-november-10-2007-edition-of.html

This edition is the second to have been hosted by a Canadian blogger and the second to be hosted internationally. Please join me in thanking Giles at Slimconomy for his participation as our host this month. As usual, this edition features personal accounts, video, self-help information and the latest in news from the HIV/AIDS community. I hope that you will spend some time reading and that you will leave comments for the contributors.

Next Edition

Please visit the ICP homepage at the following link to learn more about this project and how you can contribute:

http://internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com/

We are now accepting submissions for edition 18 to be hosted at Drop Dead Happy, located here:

http://www.dropdeadhappy.com

Please consider contributing your original artwork, poetry, news, personal accounts, short stories, videos or music files for the next edition.

Please Share with Your Friends

Please share this notice with your friends and consider posting announcements of our link on your blogs and websites. Our continuing presence is bolstered by your participation and outreach. Please help spread the word.

Contribute Your Work

I hope that you will join the growing community of contributors and hosts for this important international forum for genuine voices of AIDS. If you are interested in hosting the ICP, please send me a message and I will make the process for you as painless as possible. Return hosts are welcome! We have hosts in line through December, 2007, but need to start recruiting new hosts for next year right now!! I hope that you will consider signing up to host a specific edition of the ICP.

To be Removed From or Added To the ICP mailing list:

Please send me a message with the word REMOVE or SUBSCRIBE in your subject line to have your name removed from or added to, respectively, the ICP mailing list. If you did not receive notice of the ICP from me via direct email, then I do not have your email address in the mailing list. Please note that I can not remove an email address that does not exist on the mailing list.

Peace to you and yours.

Ron Hudson

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M4M Personal Ad Tribe

2007-11-03T17:28:50Z

Whether you are looking for Mr. Right, or Mr. Right now, this is the place for you. All men who are interested in meeting other men for dating, sex, romance, hookups, or family-building are welcome

http://tribes.tribe.net/m4mpersonals

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ICP 16 is now available

2007-10-10T17:25:21Z

Dear Friends of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP):

The 16th edition of the ICP is now available at:

http://ogresview.mu.nu/archives/243135.php.

This edition represents an attempt to reach out to a conservative political community about HIV/AIDS. It is my hope that our messages might encourage those who normally do not come in contact with the issues of HIV/AIDS to think about how to help us fight the pandemic. We have poetry, video, personal accounts and news from around the world.

Next Edition

Please visit the ICP homepage to learn more about this project and how you can contribute at the following link:

http://internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com/

We are now accepting submissions for edition 17 to be hosted at Slimconomy at the link:

http://slimconomy.blogspot.com

Please consider contributing your original artwork, poetry, news, personal accounts, short stories, videos or music files for the next edition.

Please Share with Your Friends

As usual, I would like to ask you to post a permanent link to the ICP homepage (you can get a widget there as well) on your blogs or websites and to share the word of this edition with your readers and friends. The more people who know about the ICP, the more likely it will be that we will continue to receive excellent contributions. In fact, feel free to nominate your own HIV/AIDS related contributions from your favorite blogs or websites. The most powerful stories are those of personal nature, so I would encourage you to seek out or write personal accounts and to share them with the ICP. There are many more of you than of me, so join me in the search for quality blogs that share personal stories about HIV/AIDS from around the world. We have hardly begun to tap into the situation in Asia, so blogs from that region of the world are particularly welcome.

Contribute Your Work

I hope that you will join the growing community of contributors and hosts for this important international forum for genuine voices of AIDS. If you are interested in hosting the ICP, please email me at ron.hudson@verizon.net and I will make the process for you as painless as possible. Return hosts are welcome! We have hosts in line through December, 2007, but need to start recruiting new hosts for next year. I hope that you will consider signing up to host a specific edition of the ICP.

To be Removed From or Added To the ICP mailing list:

Please email me with the word REMOVE or SUBSCRIBE in your subject line to have your name removed from or added to, respectively, the ICP mailing list. If you did not receive notice of the ICP from me via direct email, then I do not have your email address in the mailing list. Please note that I can not remove an email address that does not exist on the mailing list!!!!!

Peace to you and yours.

Ron Hudson

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Gay Geeks Saturday Night! (Oct 6)

2007-09-30T12:19:06Z

60 folks now on the email list! Welcome newcomers!

It happened to me tonight: I went bar hopping this evening and came to the realization that when I go out on a Saturday night I don't meet the people I want to meet. And heck, this is Folsom Street Fair weekend. Too many people, for one, and too much noise to get into good conversations. And the cruise crush is on. Too much distraction! I wanted to turn in my gay card right then and there.

So, I decided to move the Gay Geeks gathering from Saturday afternoons to Saturday NIGHTS, offering you a TRUE ALTERNATIVE in socializing.

Okay, I'm now calling the Gay Geeks gathering, "Gay Geeks Saturday Night" (a play on an old big band tune, "Jukebox Saturday Night" if you must know).

Info for next gathering:

GAY GEEKS SATURDAY NIGHT
Saturday October 6, 8:00pm
Muddy's Coffeehouse (new venue!)
1304 Valencia Street at 24th, San Francisco

Parking: within 2 blocks typically Public Transit: 1 block from BART 24th Street station, also on Muni lines 26, 48, and 67, and 1 block from lines 14 and 49. Truly a public transit paradise.

Muddy's does not have a good selection of food, but the owner allows people to bring in food from elsewhere. There is a great Mexican restaurant around the corner, also a falafel place and a burger place (with Niman Ranch beef) nearby.

What's the theory behind the Gay Geeks Gathering? Gay Geeks is a haven for intellectuals and visionaries. Thus, your learned geekery is most welcome. If you study languages, streetcars, oceans, religion, have a collection of Harper's Magazine dating to 1909, you're running for mayor of SF, or you've just built a propane-fired Victorian house on wheels, you're our kind of people. Come on by.

The Gay Geeks Gathering is NOT about computers, and it doesn’t focus on gay issues. We don't meet in a "gay" venue, or in a "gay" neighborhood. We're about breaking away from ALL of that! The Gay Geeks Gathering breaks the mold!

TOPICS NEXT TIME: Encouraged but not limited to:

(1) How do we know if someone is crazy or not? Is George W Bush crazy? Are the people running for mayor of SF crazy? Is the guy who begs for money at the freeway offramp crazy?

(2) Will something replace conventional news gathering now that newspapers appear to be on the brink of collapse? Is a news wiki a better idea?

(3) Why do people continue to collect newspaper clippings when the Internet is available, or collect clothes when they're out of style or don't fit anymore? Is collecting stuff specifically an American disease? Or is it a disease at all?

--David Kaye, founder of the Original Gay Geeks Gathering (established January 1997)

Gay Geeks Saturday NIght does not have a website. Subscribe using the email address below to keep abreast on the latest developments.

Group Email Addresses
Subscribe: sfgaygeeks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Post message: sfgaygeeks@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: sfgaygeeks-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
List owner: sfgaygeeks-owner@yahoogroups.com
Organizer's address: gaygeeks@yahoo.com

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Gay Classics

2007-09-11T06:37:42Z

remember this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMsnqQHOwFg

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OK< THIS TRIBE HAS BEEN QUIET TOO LONG >>> GAY MUSICAL ICONS!

2007-09-11T06:11:13Z

Maybe I have too much time on my hands but thought I would start a series of adaptations...come join the fun.

The classics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctQI9Oo_Ie8

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ftm-friendly guys in L.A?

2007-09-11T05:35:54Z

are there any ftm-friendly guys in the los angeles/socal area?

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Lost Coast Nature-Based Spiritual Queers

2007-09-11T02:31:06Z

Hi Kinfolk,
Just a little "heads up" if you're in the Eureka/Arcata sphere (and other places-if you're up for the drive). A wonderful two-spirited woman is beginning to facilitate a group of nature-based spiritual queers and is extending an invitation to any and all who might be interested in discovering, exploring or deepening their relationship to pagan forms of spirituality, Native American, Buddhist or other Earth-centered traditions. It's only three weeks old, and meets (she hopes), perhaps every other Sunday from 6:30-8:00 at the Eureka Co-op. If you're interested or just plain curious, give her a call at (707) 269-7044.
Erin, aka Dances on Thunder

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ICP 15 is now available at Living Mindfully with HIV

2007-09-10T20:04:30Z

Dear Friends of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP):

The 15th edition of the ICP is now available at the following link:

http://hivhsnmindfulness.blogspot.com:80/2007/08/15th-edition-of-international-carnival.html

on the blog Living Mindfully with HIV. This edition includes a return of artwork from Colombian artist Farid de la Ossa, a video from Angelique Kidjo and Joss Stone for relief for Darfur, a special gift offer from me for your contribution to an AIDS Charity of your choice, HIV/AIDS news from around the world, more addiction recovery help, a very special introduction to "Big Love" or "Arohanui", and much more. Please take a few moments to read and leave comments, particularly for your host, James Wortz, who has done yet another great job despite a bout of bad health in the last few days.

Next Edition

Please visit the ICP homepage ( http://internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com ) to learn more about this project and how you can contribute. We are now accepting submissions for edition 16 to be hosted at Ogre's Politics and Views ( http://www.ogresview.mu.nu ). Please consider contributing your original artwork, poetry, news, personal accounts, short stories, videos or music files for the next edition. This next edition is very special. I have approached the host, Mr. Ogre, to participate as an outreach to a conservative political community that normally may not hear from people living with HIV/AIDS. Please consider this an opportunity to share your stories with a group of people who may not normally think of HIV/AIDS as often as we do and how you might make your case for teamwork with people who may not necessarily agree with you.

Please Share with Your Friends

As usual, I would like to ask you to post a permanent link to the ICP homepage (you can get a widget there as well) on your blogs or websites and to share the word of this edition with your readers and friends. The more people who know about the ICP, the more likely it will be that we will continue to receive excellent contributions. In fact, feel free to nominate your own HIV/AIDS related contributions from your favorite blogs or websites. The most powerful stories are those of personal nature, so I would encourage you to seek out or write personal accounts and to share them with the ICP. There are many more of you than of me, so join me in the search for quality blogs that share personal stories about HIV/AIDS from around the world. We have hardly begun to tap into the situation in Asia, so blogs from that region of the world are particularly welcome.

Contribute Your Work

I hope that you will join the growing community of contributors and hosts for this important international forum for genuine voices of AIDS. If you are interested in hosting the ICP, please email me and I will make the process for you as painless as possible. Return hosts are welcome!

To be Removed From or Added To the ICP mailing list:

Please send me an email (ron.hudson@verizon.net) with the word REMOVE or SUBSCRIBE in your subject line to have your name removed or added to the ICP mailing list.

Peace to you and yours.

Ron Hudson

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Androphilia

2007-09-09T21:53:59Z

http://www.amazon.com/Androphilia-Rejecting-Identity-Reclaiming-Masculinity/dp/0976403587/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-8348348-6942207?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174909542&sr=8-1

Extremely good book. I highly recommend it.

Check it out

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Why am see aye?

2007-09-09T00:20:21Z

continuing the craziness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIT2OkCQ8t4

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SO ALT

2007-09-08T23:43:25Z

I am so alternative and so gay I don't know what to say....!!!

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AIDS Walk Los Angeles 2007

2007-09-06T02:24:42Z

http://aidswalklosangeles2007.kintera.org/jesse

Hi all,
For my 6th year in a row I will be participating in AIDS Walk Los Angeles. The walk will be taking place on October 21st this year.

I would like to ask you to help me help others in need. To help people who infected and affected by this disease. I walk in support of friends, myself, and for so many others.

If you are able to sponsor me at all it would be greatly appreciated. Every little bit helps. Check out my link above or below and help if you can. If you can not donate then please spread the word to at least 5 other people you can.

Thank you,
Jesse

http://aidswalklosangeles2007.kintera.org/jesse

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i love making out in bars

2007-09-05T19:53:11Z

And on street corners.

Tacky? ...well a little
Trashy? .... not too much so
Attention seeking? ..... doesn't seem like it at the time
Fun for others? ..... i'd like to think so
The perfect cap to a night at the bar? .... definitely

I almost prefer to just make out with guys I meet at the bar and then go home alone then actually go home with them. that depends on the guy though. some guys i'm just like "you WILL be leaving with me"

At least after a bar make out session you can usually count on a possible follow up visit and you don't end up at home with someone who reeks of cigarette smoke in your bed until the next morning.

Add a bit of casual groping to the make out and it gets real nice.

Its even hotter when you make out on the corner by their apartment...and really really hot when you get cat calls from passing cars.

However...I do not support making out in the taxi on the way to your's or his place....that is way tacky and you should never subject your cabbie to such a sight

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SF Gay Geeks Gathering This Saturday

2007-08-27T20:53:41Z

MORE SUCCESS! The last gathering was a smash and a record for talk -- 4 1/2 hours of geektalk! We're going to do it again!

Announcing the next Original Gay Geeks Gathering:

Saturday, September 1, 2:00pm Mission Creek Cafe, back room 968 Valencia Street (betw 20th and 21st) San Francisco

They have good food (try the Chicken Salpicon sandwich!) and a good atmosphere. Heck, there are even books for sale in the back room. How much more nerdy can you get?

Gay Geeks is a haven for intellectuals and visionaries. Thus, your learned geekery is most welcome. If you study languages, streetcars, oceans, Islam, or have a collection of Elvis postcards, or you're running for mayor of SF, you're our kind of people. Come on by. This sets the Original Gay Geeks apart from other such groups. The group doesn’t focus on computers, and it doesn’t focus on gay issues. In fact, we’ve usually gone through hours of discussions and not mentioned computers or gay folks even once.

I envision that this gathering will meet the FIRST and THIRD Saturdays of the month at 2:00pm, but always read the email first to be sure where we're meeting.

To get onto the email list, send a blank email to: sfgaygeeks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com or visit the Yahoo group website at: groups.yahoo.com/group/sfgaygeeks

Topics: Be most assured that the topics will be a whirlwind of everything imaginable.

Show & Tell: If you have something interesting to show, such as your bug collection or whatnot, consider bringing it to one of our future gatherings.

--David Kaye, founder of the Original Gay Geeks Gathering (established January 1997)

Here's the info to get on the email list to keep up with our future activities:

Group Email Addresses
Subscribe: sfgaygeeks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Post message: sfgaygeeks@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: sfgaygeeks-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
List owner: sfgaygeeks-owner@yahoogroups.com
Owner's address: gaygeeks@yahoo.com

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How gay men flirt

2007-08-26T17:48:55Z

typically non-overt in fasion. In my experience i get the stare, the mad dog look like you've just raped their parents, dismembered them alive and torched their house. The really confident guys with no attitude will step up to you with a carefree manner or invite you to do so, with a smile. But those are far in between....I usually get there glare stare...

My question....simple...why? How do you flirt...are you guilty of the evil stare...or the stare-when-they-look-at-you-turn-your-head-and-acted-like-they-dont-ex-ist?

i might know the answer but maybe not.

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Where is the Geographic "Heart Beat" of Alternative Gay Culture?

2007-08-14T02:47:27Z

I know we gay, alternative "types" (for lack of better phraseology) are quite spread out geographically; hence, perhaps, our flocking to this and other such sites, seeking a sense of community and togetherness, as it has become difficult for many of us to connect with other alternogays in our "physical" communities.

With that said, I can't help but feel, however, that the geographical heart beat of alternogay culture is in the San Francisco/Bay Area. At the very least, in the context of North America. That area has become the "mecca", it seems for both "normal" and alternative gay culture. I had the privilege of visiting that area about three years ago, and I got the sense that anyone could feel relatively comfortable there, particularly, as an alternative gay person.

Friends, how do you see this?

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SHORT BUS!!!

2007-08-13T09:41:29Z

I watched Short Bus last night, what an amazing film, anybody else see this sexy movie yet???

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ICP 14 is now available--Please share this news with your friends

2007-08-10T15:45:28Z

Dear Friends of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP):

The 14th edition of the ICP is now available at the blog Straight, Not Narrow at the following link:

http://straightnotnarrow.blogspot.com/2004/08/welcome-to-14th-edition-of.html

This edition includes original artwork from HIV+ Colombian artist Farid de la Ossa, an original Spanish-language poem with translation by Mexican poet Jeannette Clariond, a video blog from the American comic ANT at his ANT Colony and a spoken-word video from my friend and 1 Giant Leap collaborator Rich Ferguson of Los Angeles, CA. Other posts address recognizing alcoholism within the HIV/AIDS community, as well as other thought-provoking articles about living with HIV/AIDS. We have a number of returning contributors as well as new participants. Please take a few minutes to visit and bookmark this edition so that you can enjoy it at your leisure over the next month.

Please visit the ICP homepage to learn more about this project and how you can contribute at the following link:

http://internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com/

We are now accepting submissions for edition 15 to be hosted at the blog Living Mindfully with HIV. Please consider contributing your original artwork, poetry, news, personal accounts, short stories, and video or music files for the next edition. The more of you who actively submit your articles, the more I will be able to identify and solicit new participants for this project.

I hope that you will join the growing community of contributors and hosts for this important international forum for genuine voices of AIDS and allies. Please note that we are still seeking hosts for our November, 2007, edition and for all editions beyond December, 2007. If you are interested in hosting the ICP, please email me at ron(dot)hudson(at)verizon(dot)net and I will make the process for you as painless as possible. Return hosts are welcome!

If you have a blog, please feel free to post a notice about the availability of this edition. Also, please share this note with your friends. We need to involve as many people as possible. I really appreciate all of the links that you have added for the ICP in your blog sidebars and would encourage any of you who have not yet done so to consider adding a permanent link to the ICP to your blog.

<b>TO BE ADDED OR REMOVED FROM THE ICP MAILING LIST</b>

If you would like to be added to or removed from the ICP mailing list, please email me with either the word REMOVE or SUBSCRIBE in the subject line of the email and I will ensure that your desires are followed. This email list is confidential and will not be shared with anyone. All correspondence is handled using blind copy so that your identity will be protected.

Peace to you and yours.

Ron Hudson

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The International Carnival of Pozitivities

2007-07-31T21:44:39Z

Hi everyone.

As a gay blogger and a 22 year survivor of HIV/AIDS, I started a blog carnival for people living with HIV/AIDS and their allies. The homepage of the International Carnival of Pozitivities (ICP) can be found at:

www.internationalcarnivalofpozitivities.blogspot.com

This is a forum to share artwork, music, video, poetry, short stories and personal accounts about living with HIV/AIDS, the struggle to end the stigma of HIV/AIDS and how allies help the HIV/AIDS community.

Please check out the homepage at the link above and you will find links for the first 13 editions. Our next edition will be posted by 10 August at Straight, Not Narrow at:

www.straightnotnarrow.blogspot.com

We accept pertinent submissions for each edition until the 2nd of each month at midnight New York time and publish each month by the 10th at midnight.

Please have a look. If you like what you see, please share the link with your friends.

Peace to one and all.

Safe Journeys!

Ron Hudson

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Apropos of too gay: "Another Gay Movie"

2007-07-24T23:51:18Z

Who saw it? Wanna comment? I found myself enjoying it completely because it was so over the top.

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Lesbians sentenced for self-defense. FREE THEM NOW!

2007-07-04T23:27:09Z

FREE THEM NOW!
Lesbians sentenced for self-defense
All-white jury convicts Black women

By Imani Henry
New York

Published Jun 21, 2007 2:58 AM
On June 14, four African-American women—Venice Brown (19), Terrain Dandridge (20), Patreese Johnson (20) and Renata Hill (24)—received sentences ranging from three-and-a-half to 11 years in prison. None of them had previous criminal records. Two of them are parents of small children.

Their crime? Defending themselves from a physical attack by a man who held them down and choked them, ripped hair from their scalps, spat on them, and threatened to sexually assault them—all because they are lesbians.

The mere fact that any victim of a bigoted attack would be arrested, jailed and then convicted for self-defense is an outrage. But the length of prison time given further demonstrates the highly political nature of this case and just how racist, misogynistic, anti-gay, anti-youth and anti-worker the so-called U.S. justice system truly is.

The description of the events, reported below, is based on written statements by a community organization (FIERCE) that has made a call to action to defend the four women, verbal accounts from court observers and evidence from a surveillance camera.

The attack

On Aug. 16, 2006, seven young, African-American, lesbian-identified friends were walking in the West Village. The Village is a historic center for lesbian, gay, bi and trans (LGBT) communities, and is seen as a safe haven for working-class LGBT youth, especially youth of color.

As they passed the Independent Film Cinema, 29-year-old Dwayne Buckle, an African-American vendor selling DVDs, sexually propositioned one of the women. They rebuffed his advances and kept walking.

“I’ll f— you straight, sweetheart!” Buckle shouted. A video camera from a nearby store shows the women walking away. He followed them, all the while hurling anti-lesbian slurs, grabbing his genitals and making explicitly obscene remarks. The women finally stopped and confronted him. A heated argument ensued. Buckle spat in the face of one of the women and threw his lit cigarette at them, escalating the verbal attack into a physical one.

Buckle is seen on the video grabbing and pulling out large patches of hair from one of the young women. When Buckle ended up on top of one of the women, choking her, Johnson pulled a small steak knife out of her purse. She aimed for his arm to stop him from killing her friend.

The video captures two men finally running over to help the women and beating Buckle. At some point he was stabbed in the abdomen. The women were already walking away across the street by the time the police arrived.

Buckle was hospitalized for five days after surgery for a lacerated liver and stomach. When asked at the hospital, he responded at least twice that men had attacked him.

There was no evidence that Johnson’s kitchen knife was the weapon that penetrated his abdomen, nor was there any blood visible on it. In fact, there was never any forensics testing done on her knife. On the night they were arrested, the police told the women that there would be a search by the New York Police Department for the two men—which to date has not happened.

After almost a year of trial, four of the seven were convicted in April. Johnson was sentenced to 11 years on June 14.

Even with Buckle’s admission and the video footage proving that he instigated this anti-gay attack, the women were relentlessly demonized in the press, had trumped-up felony charges levied against them, and were subsequently given long sentences in order to send a clear resounding message—that self-defense is a crime and no one should dare to fight back.

Political backdrop of the case

Why were these young women used as an example? At stake are the billions of dollars in tourism and real estate development involved in the continued gentrification of the West Village. This particular incident happened near the Washington Square area—home of New York University, one of most expensive private colleges in the country and one of the biggest employers and landlords in New York City. The New York Times reported that Justice Edward J. McLaughlin used his sentencing speech to comment on “how New York welcomes tourists.” (June 17)

The Village is also the home of the Stonewall Rebellion, the three-day street battle against the NYPD that, along with the Compton Cafeteria “Riots” in California, helped launch the modern-day LGBT liberation movement in 1969. The Manhattan LGBT Pride march, one of the biggest demonstrations of LGBT peoples in the world, ends near the Christopher Street Piers in the Village, which have been the historical “hangout” and home for working-class trans and LGBT youth in New York City for decades.

Because of growing gentrification in recent years, young people of color, homeless and transgender communities, LGBT and straight, have faced curfews and brutality by police sanctioned by the West Village community board and politicians. On Oct. 31, 2006, police officers from the NYPD’s 6th Precinct indiscriminately beat and arrested several people of color in sweeps on Christopher Street after the Halloween parade.

Since the 1980s there has been a steady increase in anti-LGBT violence in the area, with bashers going there with that purpose in mind.

For trans people and LGBT youth of color, who statistically experience higher amounts of bigoted violence, the impact of the gentrification has been severe. As their once-safe haven is encroached on by real estate developers, the new white and majority heterosexual residents of the West Village then call in the state to brutalize them.

For the last six years the political LGBT youth group FIERCE has been at the forefront of mobilizing young people “to counter the displacement and criminalization of LGBTSTQ [lesbian, gay, bi, two spirit, trans, and queer] youth of color and homeless youth at the Christopher Street Pier and in Manhattan’s West Village.” (www.fiercenyc.org) FIERCE has also been the lead organization supporting the Jersey Seven and their families.

The trial and the media

Deemed a so-called “hate crime” against a straight man, every possible racist, anti-woman, anti-LGBT and anti-youth tactic was used by the entire state apparatus and media. Everything from the fact that they lived outside of New York, in the working-class majority Black city of Newark, N.J., to their gender expressions and body structures were twisted and dehumanized in the public eye and to the jury.

According to court observers, McLaughlin stated throughout the trial that he had no sympathy for these women. The jury, although they were all women, were all white. All witnesses for the district attorney were white men, except for one Black male who had several felony charges.

Court observers report that the defense attorneys had to put enormous effort into simply convincing the jury that they were “average women” who had planned to just hang out together that night. Some jurists asked why they were in the Village if they were from New Jersey. The DA brought up whether they could afford to hang out there—raising the issue of who has the right to be there in the first place.

The Daily News reporting was relentless in its racist anti-lesbian misogyny, portraying Buckle as a “filmmaker” and “sound engineer” preyed upon by a “lesbian wolf pack” (April 19) and a “gang of angry lesbians.” (April 13)

Everyone has been socialized by cultural archetypes of what it means to be a “man” or “masculine” and “woman” or “feminine.” Gender identity/expression is the way each indivdual chooses or not to express gender in their everyday lives, including how they dress, walk, talk, etc. Transgender people and other gender non-conforming people face oppression based on their gender expression/identity.

The only pictures shown in the Daily News were of the more masculine-appearing women. One of the most despiciable headlines in the Daily News, “‘I’m a man!’ lesbian growled during fight,” (April 13) was targeted against Renata Hill, who was taunted by Buckle because of her masculinity.

Ironically, Johnson, who was singled out by the judge as the “ringleader,” is the more feminine of the four. According to the New York Times, in his sentencing remarks, “Justice McLaughlin scoffed at the assertion made by ... Johnson, that she carried a knife because she was just 4-foot-11 and 95 pounds, worked nights and lived in a dangerous neighborhood.” He quoted the nursery rhyme, “Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me.” (June 15)

All of the seven women knew and went to school with Sakia Gunn, a 19-year-old butch lesbian who was stabbed to death in Newark, N.J., in May 2003. Paralleling the present case, Gunn was out with three of her friends when a man made sexual advances to one of the women. When she replied that she was a lesbian and not interested, he attacked them. Gunn fought back and was stabbed to death.

“You can’t help but wonder that if Sakia Gunn had a weapon, would she be in jail right now?” Bran Fenner, a founding member and co-executive director of FIERCE, told Workers World. “If we don’t have the right to self-defense, how are we supposed to survive?”

National call to action

While racist killer cops continue to go without indictment and anti-immigrant paramilitary groups like the Minutemen are on the rise in the U.S., The Jersey Four sit behind bars for simply defending themselves against a bigot who attacked them in the Village.

Capitalism at its very core is a racist, sexist, anti-LGBT system, sanctioning state violence through cops, courts and its so-called laws. The case of the Jersey Four gives more legal precedence for bigoted violence to go unchallenged. The ruling class saw this case as a political one; FIERCE and other groups believe the entire progressive movement should as well.

Fenner said, “We are organizing in the hope that this wakes up all oppressed people and sparks a huge, broad campaign to demand freedom for the Jersey Four.”

FIERCE is asking for assistance for these young women, including pro-bono legal support, media contacts and writers, pen pals, financial support, and diverse organizational support. For details, visit www.fiercenyc.org.

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New to the tribe

2007-06-25T16:24:49Z

Hi room, thanx for havin me along

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Gay Pride Months are here

2007-06-20T05:45:49Z

Whats the general consensus among the "altenative gay" tribe about Pride Parades.

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The Cult of Marvella

2007-06-10T16:10:31Z

http://tribes.tribe.net/cultofmarvella

REVOLUTION IN ACTION

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cum post

2007-06-05T10:19:19Z

Its been pretty quiet around here. We have a lot of new members. Don't be shy. Start a topic.

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anyone going to be in Toronto for Pride 2007...

2007-05-29T00:04:54Z

I know of some great alternatives from the mundane gay scene if you are interested in hanging out.

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